1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 On this episode of Ghost Hunters, Jason and Grant investigate a turn of the century armory with a haunted history. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 There was nobody in the armory but me, and the door slams shut. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Guys, turn the lights on, come walking out, boom, lights go out. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Does the sergeant's tormented spirit lurk in the shadows? 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 You can see the first sergeant actually hung himself. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 What makes these soldiers quake in their boots? 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 A lot of activity on this floor. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000 He's our shrouded figure standing there, and he just went, okay, that's it, let's go and find the stand. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 I'll give that 3.0. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Come on. 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Ryan, cold spot, cold spot to help. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 This time, things get physical. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Frank, Frank, you all right? 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Something just went right through me. 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Something threw him down dude. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:28,000 What's up guys? 17 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Hey Mike, happy you could join us. 18 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Mike's from our Massachusetts branch. 19 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 What's going on Mike? Good to see you man. 20 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Mike is an investigator with one of our TAPS family groups up in Massachusetts. 21 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,000 He's been doing it for a long time, and he's really knowledgeable with equipment. 22 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 He builds his own equipment, and he's got a lot to offer. 23 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Alright guys, we're heading off to an armory into Bedford, Mass today. 24 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,000 I guess there's been a lot of reports of just things walking down the hallway, scaring people. 25 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,000 A lot of people don't even want to come to work due to seeing things walking down the hallway. 26 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Yeah, our contact there didn't really give us too much information, so we're not quite sure what we're running into. 27 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 But we know that people are disturbed by it. 28 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 So Donna, you're going to be on interviews. 29 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 You guys of course are on equipment. 30 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:16,000 We're bringing thermal imaging camera, we're bringing the DVR system. 31 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 When was the last time something happened there? 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Not sure, we'll be fighting that out tonight. 33 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Let's make it work. 34 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Let's get all set to do it. 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Alright. 36 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 It's nice to have a local case, man. 37 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 It is nice. Get home to the family tonight. It's going to be nice. 38 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,000 This is yet another time that a military group has called us in to help them out. 39 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,000 I honestly believe that any time state officials call you in, 40 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,000 they must truly believe that they have some kind of activity at this building 41 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 because it's followed the chain up to the point where they've said, 42 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 you know what, alright, get these guys here. 43 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Maybe we should just become a branch of the government. 44 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 As long as they fund us and stop us coming out of our pocket, I think that's great. 45 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 We'll probably have worse equipment than we have now. 46 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Hey guys, it's Don. 47 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Good, how are you? 48 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Sorry to bother you. How are you doing? 49 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Sergeant, it's a pleasure to meet you. 50 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Captain, it's a pleasure to meet you. 51 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Sergeant, how are you doing? 52 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Hey, very well. 53 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,000 It's an incredible building for me outside. 54 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000 It is quite large. 55 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 What was it built? 56 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 1903. 57 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Oh. 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 That is the panel right on the building over there. 59 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 1903. 60 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 1903. 61 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Mind if we take a look around? 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Come on in. 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Thanks. 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,000 My possum. 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 I feel like I'm an airplane going into a hangar. 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Yeah. 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,000 This place is huge. 68 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 It seems like an easy building to fall in love with. 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Absolutely. 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:57,000 I'm going to take a hard left over here and go into my former section room. 71 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 I'm still the medical session chief of the battalion. 72 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 And we were inside. 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,000 I was inside just trying to get the equipment ready. 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,000 The room's empty now, but you can picture just cabinets and green canisters and just 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 the equipment that we need. 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 And the door slams shut. 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,000 That's a big heavy door. 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,000 That's a heavy door. 79 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 It doesn't get closed by a breeze. 80 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 And there was no one out there that you knew of? 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 There was nobody in the angry but me. 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Came out, looked around. 83 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Obviously scared out of my wits. 84 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 This was August of 2003. 85 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 I was sweating when I walked out. 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 It was very hot outside, 80s anyway. 87 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 And then I just had like a cold chill. 88 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,000 I took a breath in. 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,000 There was condensation and I was physically, physically cold. 90 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 So you actually saw your breath? 91 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Absolutely. 92 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 And I've never said that before to anybody because you know. 93 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Kind of weird. 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 As you can see the place floods. 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 The armorer, the guy that actually does the work here, repairs things. 96 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:59,000 He's been working down here, working on those pipes and seeing footsteps going through the water. 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Like the invisible man, just walking across the water. 98 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,000 One particular individual said as he was walking towards that particular light switch right there. 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,000 To turn it on, he saw a shrouded figure standing there and he just went, 100 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Okay, all right, that's it. 101 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Standing at the light switch. 102 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 It's like a black shrouded figure. 103 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Like the outline of a silhouette of a human being. 104 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 All right gentlemen, we're going to take a heart right into this room. 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Right here and a quick left. 106 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Okay. 107 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Off to the right and left of powder magazines. 108 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Talk! Talk! 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 What do you want to know? 110 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 I don't know, you got to tell me. 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 That's a great question. 112 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 That's awesome. 113 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 This is definitely not the weird stuff we're looking for guys. I'm sorry. 114 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,000 We're going to move into the office with the first hour and actually hung himself. 115 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Who? 116 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Which is in this office here. 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 What do you rope himself off to? 118 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Well, this is a drop ceiling here. 119 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,000 All right. 120 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 So we're under the impression that was in the middle of this room here. 121 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 And you can see how high the ceilings go by that panel that's missing there. 122 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 All right. 123 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 All right, so where to now? 124 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 We're going to move out of this office and move out to the catwalk. 125 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 This is nice. 126 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 As we're moving, you get a full view of the whole drill shed flowing. 127 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,000 And this is how they would monitor from above years ago. 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Anyone ever describe any threatening feelings? 129 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,000 The armor. 130 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,000 He was pointing to me one time. 131 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,000 He was walking across the drill shed floor and he felt he was shoved. 132 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Really? 133 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Where he lost his balance. 134 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 He didn't fall down, but he lost his balance. 135 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 He told that to me and I find that to be credible also. 136 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 You guys did wonderful. 137 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Thanks for the tour. 138 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Thank you. 139 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,000 You're very welcome. 140 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,000 So what we're going to do now is we're going to set up equipment, the cameras, the sound recorders, 141 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 do a walkthrough with the thermal and see if we can catch anything. 142 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,000 I would equipment of yours that you bring tonight. 143 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Everything I had. 144 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,000 All right. 145 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:53,000 What we shoot, thermometer, sweep, infrared flashlight, a homemade infrared illuminator 146 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 that Mike made. 147 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,000 This will send out the infrared beam so you don't have to have a night vision camera. 148 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 It's got a Geiger camera here somewhere. 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 What? 150 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Don't know what it does? 151 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 I don't know. 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 I know it does. 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 It's a nice measure. 154 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Come to my lecture and I'll tell you, why don't you explain this to me? 155 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Mr. Show me your lecture. 156 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:19,000 It's actually made up to actually send radioactive material. 157 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 That's the way Geiger cameras are. 158 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 First off, you zeroize it. 159 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Zeroize? 160 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 See, I said zero. 161 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,000 You do it on the zero. 162 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Zeroize? 163 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Zeroize. 164 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 That's what I call it. 165 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Zeroize. 166 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 These right here, this is just like an EMF detector. 167 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 100 to 10 to 1 and the point zero, the point one. 168 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 What does that mean? 169 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,000 It's actually more like, it's actually almost like Milagos but it's not. 170 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 I forgot the word for it. 171 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:49,000 But it's based, Milagos based there, his, his, who's the guy here? 172 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Actually, I don't know who made it. 173 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Okay. 174 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Milagos EMF detector is based off of. 175 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Yes. 176 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 So, it's, what? 177 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Sure, bro. 178 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 I'm trying to explain it to you and you're not even... 179 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,000 You just went through the same thing anybody looking at it could have went through. 180 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,000 He's such an ass. 181 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,000 I had my doubts whether or not he knew how to use a Geiger counter. 182 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:18,000 If he does, that's cool because I don't, if he doesn't, then he should have just said. 183 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Once I tried to embarrass me like that, you know, next time he wants something said to him, 184 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,000 I ain't gonna tell him. 185 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Let's go. 186 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Lights out and went. 187 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Now? 188 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Go to the lights. 189 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Magnus. 190 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Magnus. 191 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Magnus. 192 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Magnus. 193 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Magnus. 194 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Magnus. 195 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 There's cold spots in here, Mike. 196 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 So, keep vigil with that. 197 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 It's a little bit lower. 198 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Yeah. 199 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Hey, Brian, look at this. 200 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Where are we? 201 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Whoa! 202 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 That because of the... 203 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Well, a second ago, I just got a spike. 204 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,000 It went up to 100-something degrees and went right back down. 205 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,000 The overall room temperature is about 63 degrees. 206 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Whoa. 207 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Wow. 208 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,000 You feel that cold spot right here, dude? 209 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Just now, my reading dropped down to 49. 210 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000 You still getting it? 211 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Yeah. 212 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 It's like all the way over here. 213 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Come in and feel it. 214 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 It comes and goes. 215 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Yeah. 216 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 It's kind of... right here. 217 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Wait. 218 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Hiya. 219 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Hiya. 220 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Oh, sorry. 221 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Over here, guys. 222 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,000 It's cold over here. 223 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 You feel it? 224 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Yeah. 225 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Right here. 226 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Anything on audio? 227 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Right here. 228 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Cold breeze right here. 229 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Just got a cold breeze. 230 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,000 I'm not sure. 231 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 I'm not sure. 232 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 I'm not sure. 233 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 I'm not sure. 234 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 I don't know. 235 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 I don't know. 236 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,000 I don't know. 237 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,000 I don't know. 238 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Yeah, it's back here now. 239 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 It's right here. 240 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Right here. 241 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Right here. 242 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 You're right. 243 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Where you f***ing at? 244 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Yeah. 245 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 You ain't kidding. 246 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,000 It's right here, dude. 247 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,000 It's back up this way now. 248 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Back down this f***ing way. 249 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,000 It's so hot. 250 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Right here. 251 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 It's back here now. 252 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,000 It's falling. 253 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 It's coming this way. 254 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 That is awesome, dude. 255 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 We're in a cold spot. 256 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Can you see all right? 257 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,000 I can't see anything. 258 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 No, I'm walking blind, but I'm okay with that. 259 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 I'm not sure. 260 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 I can't see anything. 261 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 No, I'm walking blind, but I'm okay with that. 262 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 You see anything on there? 263 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 I don't know. 264 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 I'm not getting anything on here. 265 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 We'll see. 266 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Let's get over there. 267 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Hey, let's test this door. 268 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 I want to really see how this works. 269 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 It's a hatch door, Grant. 270 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 It's that thing. 271 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 It's not a shell. 272 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,000 I can feel it. 273 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Yeah, but it doesn't move kind of easy. 274 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Watch this. 275 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 See, that's not a slam. 276 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 I don't know if you knew it. 277 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 We're expecting you. 278 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,000 He said, remember when he was down here, he said that it hit hard. 279 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Remember like that. 280 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,000 All right. 281 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Let's move on. 282 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Steve. 283 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Yes. 284 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 My battery was at 128 minutes when I first started it down this hallway. 285 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 It's 63 now. 286 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,000 When entity itself, when it manifests, it usually will drain your batteries down. 287 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Because it's drawing the energy from somewhere and it's going to cause an energy disruption. 288 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Half the battery's gone. 289 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Why don't we go to the area where they got hung himself? 290 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Are you getting anything on that Jeep? 291 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 I'm not getting anything, yeah. 292 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Tell me, what'd you see? 293 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 That's a toilet. 294 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 It's like a back of a horse. 295 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Did you just see something on by? 296 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Yeah, I did see something on by. 297 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Oh, there goes another one. 298 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 What do you think that would be? 299 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Put your hand in front of it. 300 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 See what that is. 301 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 That looks different. 302 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 It didn't look like that, that's for sure. 303 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Right here. 304 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,000 We're in the 60s again and I'm in the same spot as I was a minute ago, getting 20s. 305 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Right here. 306 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Holy f***ing right f***ing here. 307 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 I know too. 308 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Hold on, let me back it up. 309 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Let me back it up and see if I can get some video. 310 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Put your hand in front of it again. 311 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,000 It's like, nah, there's no way man, that was really hot. 312 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Wow, is she on? 313 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Whoa, did you just feel that? 314 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Guys, right here, it's cool. 315 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Right here, SD, right here. 316 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 It was getting cold, actual. 317 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Wait, right here, feel this, right here, right here. 318 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Oh my god, right here. 319 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 It's actually, it was actually chilly. 320 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,000 I got goosebumps. 321 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Show yourselves so we can take a picture. 322 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Frank, are you okay? 323 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 What did you do? 324 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 What happened? 325 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Thank you, all right? 326 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Get some light on, get some light on in here. 327 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Something threw him down dude. 328 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Frank, are you okay? 329 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 What did you do? 330 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 What happened? 331 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,000 Frank, you all right? 332 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 What happened? 333 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Something just went right through me. 334 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 What? 335 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Frank, you all right? 336 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Oh, f***. 337 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Get some help. 338 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 I fell with all this gear. 339 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Frank, are you okay? 340 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Do you need help up? 341 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Dude, get some light on. 342 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Get some light on, get some light on in here. 343 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Get some light on. 344 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Hold on, let's take, let's unhook the audio gear. 345 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Get some stuff off it. 346 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Something threw him down dude. 347 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Okay, Jay. 348 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 What? 349 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Frank, hey man, a f***ing Frank just fell down. 350 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 What? 351 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 He fell down or something. 352 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 He's out on the catwalk. 353 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 All right. 354 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 I don't know, he's lying there. 355 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Frank, are you okay man? 356 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 No. 357 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000 What happened? 358 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Don't move him. 359 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Did you hear your back? 360 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Yeah. 361 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Something, something threw him down. 362 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,000 He went with his sound equipment and everything. 363 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 His sound equipment bounced off the ground. 364 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Yeah. 365 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Right when I took the picture. 366 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Want some ice Frank? 367 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,000 I'll go, I'll go. 368 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Just gonna bring all the stuff out. 369 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Yeah. 370 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,000 Get some ice and some water for him. 371 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 I don't know, I'm gonna move everything down. 372 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Don, I need your help. 373 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Something threw Frank down and he's all hurt right now. 374 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 I need to get some ice and stuff, yeah. 375 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Something threw him down and... 376 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Yeah. 377 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Hey man, is it your head? 378 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 This is my back and my chest. 379 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Is it from the fall? 380 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Or? 381 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Is something still inflicting yours or from the fall? 382 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Man, take my back, it's from the walls. 383 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Your chest is from something else. 384 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Something just f***ed with me. 385 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Hey man, you better push him. 386 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 It's moving, it's moving. 387 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Don't move if you're all right. 388 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 You can't get any visual or anything. 389 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Frank, are you awake? 390 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 I'm looking at Dave all of a sudden. 391 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 He just took me right from my head. 392 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 He's like from the chest right to my head. 393 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 He's f***ing holding me back. 394 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 What hurts right now? 395 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 His chest and his back. 396 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,000 His back from the fall, his chest from whatever. 397 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 He didn't see what hit him, but something hit him. 398 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Internal or external? 399 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,000 My muscle? 400 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 I feel like there's a f***ing weight on my chest right now. 401 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 What'd you feel when you... 402 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 I got cold. 403 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,000 And something just right from the floor came up. 404 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,000 He just took me out and snapped my head back. 405 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,000 And took me off. 406 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,000 I just sent the outfit. 407 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 I'm getting up. 408 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 I can't get past that box. 409 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 I was just getting past it. 410 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Can I get something from to put his feet on? 411 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Yeah, we need something for his feet. 412 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 All right, I'll be right back. 413 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 What was that paint? 414 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,000 I want to take your blood pressure and I think it's just about everything else. 415 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 I'm trying to believe in all the rocks. 416 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 It's not the point of talking. 417 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,000 It's the point of yourself. 418 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Get a bullet. 419 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,000 You can get your look. 420 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 I understand that. 421 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 I'm going to get the back of that bullet. 422 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 You got your bullet on the side first? 423 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Okay, here we go. 424 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 How's that Frank? 425 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,000 Okay. 426 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Two. 427 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Yeah. 428 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000 I got him. 429 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 How do you feel right now? 430 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Are you having any pain anymore? 431 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Very important. 432 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 You tell me so I can treat you appropriately. 433 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,000 You're feeling twinges on stuff. 434 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 We can take this off. 435 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Any marks on this test? 436 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Cold Frank? 437 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 I'm going to pop this off. 438 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Can you breathe a little bit fast? 439 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Yeah, it does those things. 440 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,000 My biggest concern right now is Frank's emotional state. 441 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:39,000 And a lot of times that happens when somebody's been physically touched by an entity or knocked down. 442 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,000 A lot of times they get bits and pieces of that entity's life because they've been touched. 443 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 You feel someone else's feelings. 444 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:52,000 You feel you may see someone else's thoughts in that instant. 445 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 But they burn into your brain. 446 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Me and Grant need to sit down with Frank and discuss what happened with him. 447 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,000 It's probably going to be like pulling teeth, but I really think we need to do it. 448 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Try to find out what he really experienced besides being pushed down. 449 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Did he see anything? 450 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Did he feel anything? 451 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,000 These are factors that are really going to play in good right now. 452 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,000 You know you have our utmost respect. 453 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 You know you've had it from day one. 454 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 If you can just explain to me exactly what happened with you. 455 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 We were just working up on the catwalk. 456 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,000 And all of a sudden I just got this wave of air or energy. 457 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 I don't know what it was. 458 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,000 It came just right up and right under my chin, just knocking me under the chin. 459 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:47,000 I threw my head back and the next thing I knew I was getting just pulled right down onto the floor. 460 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:52,000 And it just felt like there was just big pressure pushing down on my chest. 461 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Like there was just something sitting there. 462 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 You were crying earlier, you know, between us. 463 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Was it the fact that you were hit by something that wasn't there? 464 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Yes. 465 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,000 I don't want to say I'm just afraid of stuff. 466 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 I'm just not. 467 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000 I understand that. 468 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,000 I mean it's not like it's okay. 469 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,000 This is how it feels. 470 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:22,000 It felt like everything that all of my fears, all of the things that I'm afraid of, 471 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:28,000 things that might happen, all of that was realized in that half a second. 472 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,000 As it hit me, as it pulled me down, just as I'm hitting the floor, 473 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:39,000 I'm thinking, you know, oh my god, it's like inside it's like f***, do them stay for me right now. 474 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,000 This type of thing will change you in some way or another. 475 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,000 And you know, we are here as confidants. 476 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,000 You know, should you feel that things are starting to change. 477 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Okay? 478 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 I mean we've done this type of thing with a lot of people. 479 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,000 So we care very, very much about you Frank. 480 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,000 And I tell you both of our heart stuff when we saw that. 481 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Well I appreciate your concern guys. 482 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Why don't you rest up for a few. 483 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 You want to chill out and hear about yourself, be left alone? 484 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000 No. 485 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 I gotta continue. 486 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Let's get you out of this room. 487 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Thanks guys. 488 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Appreciate it. 489 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 I just feel bad for Frank because I don't know what he's experienced. 490 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,000 And if this is his first, then it could be pretty traumatic for him. 491 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,000 This is what I think my personal opinion, I think Steve agrees. 492 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,000 When Jane Grant went around with her more imager, they were getting a very hot spot going by the camera. 493 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Spears are cold. 494 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 And humans are hot. 495 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:55,000 I think it could be an inhuman only for the mere fact that it is not typical of a human haunting to throw somebody. 496 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,000 I've never seen it. 497 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Even Jason has most spirits. 498 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Human spirits can't lift over 5 or 10 pounds. 499 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 And humans can lift 300 pounds if they wanted to. 500 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Let's go and find this damn thing. 501 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000 I'm ready man. 502 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Can we f*** it up? 503 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 What are we looking for? 504 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,000 We're looking right there? 505 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Okay. 506 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Right there? 507 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 This is Frank right here. 508 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Okay. 509 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Okay. 510 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Boom. 511 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Bam. 512 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 He's down. 513 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Not uncommon gentlemen. 514 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 It looks like he's more than right. 515 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,000 That's what I said. 516 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000 I mean I was watching when he comes back. 517 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 It looks like his feet turned up all this way. 518 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000 You know I stood back Jane. 519 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000 It really doesn't. 520 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Okay. 521 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000 This is him right here. 522 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Bam. 523 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Now watch when you watch him in reverse. 524 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000 You can see his legs. 525 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Zoom. 526 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000 He goes stands right up in reverse. 527 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Because you know you guys work here but I have to say it was anybody else. 528 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000 I had you second guessing it. 529 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,000 But I honestly have to say it being Frank, I mean I really can't second guess that. 530 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Alright let's do this. 531 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Nultimometer Brian, nultimometer? 532 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Got it right here. 533 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Alright let's move. 534 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000 We're going to head back up to the second floor to find this thing. 535 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Dude, dude. 536 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Something just moved in front of me dude. 537 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,000 It's shot in that way. 538 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Alright that's like squeak, squeak, squeak. 539 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,000 You go that way, go that way, go this way. 540 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Surround this ****. 541 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,000 3.0, 3.1, 2.9, 2.9, 3.0. 542 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000 It's right here. 543 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000 3.1, 3.3. 544 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Go up and down with it. 545 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,000 2.9 is going down. 546 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000 It's going up right here. 547 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 It's right here. 548 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 3.5, 3.4, this is the strongest. 549 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 63 degrees. 550 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,000 Steady temperature, 60 degrees. 551 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Brian, Brian, cold spot. 552 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Cold spot to hell. 553 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Move out of the way guys. 554 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 71, 60, 61. 555 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Give it to me right here Brian. 556 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Brian put your hands up, put your hands up. 557 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Oh yeah, definitely. 558 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Put your hands up right here. 559 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Nothing's coming out of these windows Brian, nothing. 560 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,000 I'm getting 1.9 in here now. 561 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000 5.3. 562 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 There's nothing here. 563 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,000 I'm not getting anything. 564 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 What's going on in those other rooms like there were man? 565 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 I was getting a high reading up there. 566 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 I hope something like this doesn't happen again tonight. 567 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,000 So what's bothering you darling? 568 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000 It's bothering me isn't it? 569 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 It's not really what happens tonight. 570 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 It's the fact that I can't shake it. 571 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 I can't shake the feeling of being scared. 572 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Like I want to be here and I want to be out with you guys 573 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 and see what's going on and be part of this. 574 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,000 But I just, this shakiness about me, I just don't like it. 575 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,000 I don't like not feeling in control with what's going on here. 576 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Things happen. 577 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000 I mean I've been smacked in the face by something that wasn't there. 578 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000 And I had an experience very much like Frank's. 579 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000 And you cannot explain it until it happens to you. 580 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000 And I think if it happened to you, not that I hope it happens to you, 581 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,000 but if it does, then I think you'll be tougher on yourself. 582 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,000 I know. 583 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,000 I have had things happen, you know this. 584 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:51,000 It's just, I'd rather see what's coming ahead of me visually. 585 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Right, but it's not going to happen in this field. 586 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000 Just accept that there are things around you right now, 587 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,000 watching you and they could possibly affect you. 588 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000 It's a fact. 589 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Don't think that, oh man this can't happen. 590 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Think it's going to happen. 591 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 It's just a matter of time. 592 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000 If you're ready, if you're prepared for it, then there's no feeling. 593 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Well I don't want it to happen to me. 594 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Then maybe I shouldn't be here. 595 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 No, I want to be here. 596 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 I'm not going anywhere. 597 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Is there a spirit in these rooms? 598 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,000 If so, give us a sign of your presence. 599 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Why don't you show yourself? 600 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Why don't you give me a sign of your presence? 601 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000 I asked to take a picture again. 602 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000 That's what you worked last time. 603 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Show yourself in the photo. 604 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Steve, sit over there. 605 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Mike, sit over there. 606 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Over where? Where are you pointing to? 607 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 In that corner. 608 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 If there is a presence in this room, 609 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,000 what is your name? 610 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Are you an army officer? 611 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,000 I demand you to show yourself. 612 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Or hit Steve. 613 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,000 If you are an evil spirit, show yourself to us. 614 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:18,000 What happens to someone perfectly normal 615 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,000 to make them go doing this for so long 616 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000 and with such a conviction for the truth? 617 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000 What would make someone take that much time 618 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 from their family and their job, 619 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,000 that much money from their family 620 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000 to pursue something like this, 621 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 if he didn't believe it? 622 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Well, you know what? 623 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 We caught something else, 624 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000 which we already caught something on film. 625 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000 I didn't capture it. I didn't experience it. 626 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 I experienced a cold spot. 627 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000 I've seen cold spots before. I felt them before. 628 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 We'll just wrap it up. 629 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Okay. 630 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Hey, good job. 631 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 We definitely got a lot of stuff that we got to go home 632 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,000 and go through, so let's wrap it up. 633 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Let's call it a night. 634 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Make sure we get everything. 635 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Guys, thanks for having us. 636 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 We really appreciate everything. 637 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000 You guys have been wonderful. 638 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Thank you. Thank you. 639 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 We wish you the best. 640 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000 See you back here soon. 641 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 I keep thinking we just went out with Bruce Willis. 642 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Alright, dude, let's do this stuff, man. 643 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Let's do this armory stuff. 644 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 We caught so much stuff on the thermal. 645 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 We got some stuff going back and forth, 646 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 so I got to check that out. 647 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Frank, getting laid out like a bad sack of potatoes. 648 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Bad sack of potatoes? 649 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Yeah, man. 650 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Where'd you come up with that one? 651 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000 Right here, man. 652 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 I know, dude. 653 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Alright, head over to the DVR system, my brother. 654 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Here we go. 655 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 See you in seven hours. 656 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Hey, Steve, I'm coming up to where Frank falls. 657 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Let's see if we can catch him. 658 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 This is when they're going up to the second floor. 659 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 I'm going to get the camera. 660 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Oh, dude. 661 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000 We got it. 662 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Got a front-to-view of it, man. 663 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000 I got to see that again. 664 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Watch his sound gear. 665 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 It looks like his sound gear goes up before he moves. 666 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000 Watch right here. 667 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 He gave gas. 668 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Bites it. 669 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 You heard a lot of sound first. 670 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 It's horrible. 671 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Look at his sound gear, dude. 672 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Right next to his head. 673 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000 You got to realize that I don't think there's any documentation of a human spirit throwing somebody. 674 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000 No. 675 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Most researchers believe they don't have the energy to do it. 676 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 I know. 677 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000 And why would they do it? Are they that pissed off? 678 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Are you okay? 679 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 I thought it was joking, you know? 680 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 But then that's what I say right here. 681 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 I said, hey, and the fact that he was crying really hard for a good half hour. 682 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 You know what I mean? 683 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 I love it. 684 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 It's great paranormal activity, dude. 685 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,000 We actually caught somebody getting a hell of a beat on him. 686 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000 We got to show this audition. 687 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000 That's key right there. 688 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 What's up, man? 689 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,000 We're going to give you the download on all the evidence we caught at the Armory, 690 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 including the whole Frank Fiasco. 691 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Very nice. That was crazy. 692 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 No, no, no. 693 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 I'm telling you we got to touch. 694 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Well, I know we caught it on the DVR. 695 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000 That's the first thing we want to show you. 696 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 We want to show you the DVR. 697 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 It's hard to see. It's very hard to see. That's Frank right there. 698 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000 You're probably going to watch it a few times. 699 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000 You see him take it and then you're about to take it right now. 700 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Blam! 701 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Oh, man. 702 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000 It's hot. That's like wrestling stuff. 703 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 I can see right here we've got about three or four lights shining on the guy. 704 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Did we catch it with another camera or anybody? 705 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000 The crew or us? 706 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000 I don't know what the crew has, but we got it. 707 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000 We got it. We got full frontal. 708 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Full frontal? 709 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Are you serious? 710 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 We were reviewing it. For some reason I pan over right to where Frank is 711 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000 and you see Frank go, no way! 712 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Nice job! 713 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 I'm going to show that right now. So I'm going to do that. 714 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 I don't know how we caught that. 715 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000 You got the whole thing? 716 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Good boy. 717 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000 You'll see me trying to look out. 718 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Right here. Oh, he's right there. 719 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Oh my gosh! 720 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000 He blights it. Now watch. 721 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000 He's right here. 722 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Sorry, man. 723 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Look at his tongue gear. We actually take it off before you guys... 724 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000 There's no way Frank would throw his gear like that. 725 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000 That is so stupid. 726 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,000 I hate to smile, man, but we caught that on the front view. 727 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Frank is like a brother to me. 728 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Frank, are you okay? 729 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000 No. 730 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 He was out of it. 731 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000 You see, I'm not really looking in the camera right now. 732 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 I'm just holding it. 733 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000 He was down for about a half hour. 734 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000 He took him like a half hour to get in a chair. 735 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 What he said happened to him was when he was standing there, 736 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000 he said he felt a cold draft go over his legs, 737 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 come up his body and hit him in the gut and hit him in the face. 738 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000 And if you notice, I'll play back a few times. 739 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000 You see his sound gear jump up before he moves back. 740 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 He's like hit the sound gear. 741 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,000 You know what's interesting is that you and I were using the thermal camera 742 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,000 and we caught stuff and it must have been the same time 743 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,000 that you guys started feeling cold spots because it was like exactly the same time. 744 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,000 We went back and we were seeing these things again 745 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000 and that's when Frank got smacked. 746 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000 So they jived right on the back. 747 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000 That's why my arms were... 748 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000 I was feeling a cold spot and we were getting cold spots all over right where Frank was. 749 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 His arms weren't cold. His arms were warm. 750 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Would a human spirit be able to use that kind of force? 751 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,000 The way he described it, having been someone who's never experienced it before, 752 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,000 and the way he described it to me, it sounds like it jives with every other account 753 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000 of something like that but just more severe. 754 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,000 I gotta say, I've experienced hostility firsthand, not like that. 755 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 That's scary. 756 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Which jives, I mean, that's... 757 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000 What do you think it was? 758 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000 I don't know. I don't know. 759 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000 So we've got Frank getting pretty much toned. 760 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Cold spots too. 761 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Plus we're getting cold spots. 762 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000 We're getting EMF readings too. 763 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000 And everything seemed to happen right on that count. 764 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000 And honestly, that's what those guys said when we first... 765 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000 Yeah, they said that's the major thing because when we walked in, they turned around and said, 766 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000 that's the major hotspot right there. 767 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,000 We need to have the footage set up and cleaned up before the reveal. 768 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000 I'll send it out tomorrow morning. 769 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Guys, great work. Good timing with the freaking camera. 770 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000 That just made it perfect. 771 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Thank you. 772 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Good job. 773 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000 What's up, Ben? 774 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 I got the footage back from post of Frank Fallon. 775 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Dude, you gotta check this out, man. 776 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000 It's like he got laid out, man. 777 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000 It's crazy. 778 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000 So how many different ways did they do it? 779 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000 About six or seven. 780 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000 They slowed the speed down, they enlarged the frame. 781 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000 This is the normal speed. This is the original one we saw. 782 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Oh, it's crazy, man. 783 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000 This is 50% speed. 784 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Alright, 50% speed. Here we go. 785 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000 It almost looks like a whole bag comes up. 786 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Yeah, now just... 787 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Watch. Watch. 788 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000 The whole bag comes up and hits him in the jaw. 789 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Yeah, now he's got his wound mic in his left hand, right? 790 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000 That's nuts. 791 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000 So Steve said maybe he grabbed his... 792 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 with his right hand and pulled, but the whole bag comes up. 793 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000 If he would have pulled it with his right hand, it would have went this way. 794 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000 It goes straight up. 795 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,000 It's like he needed to go up like 25s. 796 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Yeah, this is cool. This is when you can really see it. 797 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000 You can see the bag right there. 798 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Oh, they're good. 799 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Then he falls. 800 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,000 Alright, his hands up on top of the boom mic. 801 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Oh, yeah, it's holding the boom mic. 802 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Check this out. Look. 803 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Dang. He's got the... 804 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000 He's holding the boom mic. 805 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000 He did both hands. 806 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,000 That's... 807 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000 The bag comes right up by itself. 808 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000 That's insane. The whole bag moves. 809 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Watch. 810 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Now look where his arm is. 811 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000 You can't see his arm because it's up over his head. 812 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000 There goes the bag. 813 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Look where his arm is. 814 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Yep. 815 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 Holy crap. 816 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Wow. 817 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000 That's awesome. 818 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000 I'm going to have to think about this one, but yeah, that's... 819 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,000 That's a tall one. 820 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000 That's impressive. That's incredible. 821 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000 That is. 822 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Hey Chris, come here for a minute. 823 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000 I want to show you some of this footage we got. 824 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Alright, look. 825 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Here's Frank. 826 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Now watch. 827 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Watch right there. 828 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000 The bag comes up. His arm's up here. 829 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000 And his other arm's right there. 830 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Mm-hmm. 831 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 So both arms are... 832 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000 That's what I'm going to do here. 833 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Watch. 834 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,000 See how the bag comes up? 835 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000 It just lifts up. 836 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Like it got nailed by something. 837 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,000 What do you think? 838 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Wow. 839 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000 He hit hard. 840 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000 I don't know what it is. 841 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Honestly, I have no idea. 842 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000 I'm going to... 843 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000 I'm definitely going to say that there's... 844 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Some kind of activity there. 845 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,000 You know, kickerance impression as well. 846 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Yeah. 847 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Have you ever seen anything like this? 848 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,000 Not to that extreme. 849 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000 That was the first. 850 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000 Wow. 851 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000 It was a whole learning situation. 852 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,000 The only thing I could say is thank God that Sergeant Rebello was there. 853 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,000 After seeing this footage, it wasn't a medical condition that caused that. 854 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000 It was something paranormal. 855 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Yeah. 856 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,000 You want to call something, brother? 857 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000 So what do you think they're going to say, man? 858 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000 About that footage with Frank getting in. 859 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000 I'm lost for words when it comes down to it. 860 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000 I got to be honest with you. 861 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000 What do you think? 862 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000 What's your verdict, Haunted? 863 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,000 Absolutely not. 864 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,000 No, you're kidding. 865 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000 What's it going to do? 866 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000 You know, Brian would be crying right now if you just say that. 867 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000 I believe the place is haunted. 868 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000 I believe it has some activity in it and so forth. 869 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000 I can't say what knocked down Frank because I didn't see what knocked down Frank, 870 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000 but I can tell you what the hell it looks like. 871 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000 I can tell you what it is. 872 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 It was a freaking sound equipment knocked down Frank. 873 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 What moved to sound equipment is a different story. 874 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,000 What's weird about the Armory J is that we got some cold spots. 875 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Some cold and hot spots all mixed into one. 876 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 So I don't know if we're working with a total different style haunting here, 877 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:42,000 or if it's just, you know, we need to open up our eyes a little more and see a little more of the spectrum. 878 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 It's good to see you again. 879 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Good to see you. 880 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Good to see you. 881 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,000 Good to see you. 882 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Good to see you. 883 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000 Thanks for coming here. 884 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,000 So how have you guys been? 885 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,000 Busy. 886 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Busy. 887 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Always busy. 888 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Well, you guys know why we came here. 889 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 We came here due to the claims of paranormal activity that had been said over the years. 890 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,000 What we did was you guys had a claim that the hot spot was this area right above us, 891 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000 this catwalk, as we called it. 892 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000 So we stuck a camera up there, and we stuck a camera down, 893 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000 focusing on the door that you saw slam. 894 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,000 And we had a camera set up on the second floor, because that seemed to be a hot spot. 895 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,000 So Jay and I then took the thermal imaging camera and started to walk around. 896 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,000 And as we were walking, we'd see a flash of heat go by. 897 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:31,000 And the funny thing is with it, it was a flash of heat, but also with cold. 898 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,000 A lot of times they say with spirit activity, you get cold or hot spots, 899 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 depending on the kind of spirit that you're dealing with. 900 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000 I've experienced that cold. 901 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,000 No, you haven't. 902 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Now, what we ended up happening was on the second time that we were getting that strange thing, 903 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000 they kept on going by the thermal imaging camera. 904 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Right after the second time it went by was when Brian and a couple other people came running in, 905 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,000 telling us that our sound guy had been hit by something, knocked down. 906 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,000 I know you remember that. We greatly appreciate you coming to his assistance on that. 907 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,000 My pleasure. 908 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,000 When you came up there and you checked him out, I know you checked his blood pressure and everything else. 909 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Did you see anything that could have created that scenario? 910 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,000 When I arrived, he was lying supine, which means on his back, he was covered up. 911 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:22,000 He wasn't very coherent. His pupils were really dilated. He wasn't responding correctly. 912 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000 He just seemed to be terrified. 913 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,000 It's what it seemed like to me. He was very sweaty, very clammy cold. 914 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:34,000 His heart rate was well into the hundreds, which presents that something's really got him to get his heart moving, 915 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:40,000 i.e. whether it was something that, some outside activity that made him get the way it was. 916 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,000 He states to me that once he came around that he didn't trip, he didn't fall. 917 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,000 It felt like something just picked him up and put him on the floor. 918 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,000 Well, it's good that you brought that up because upon reviewing the evidence we had, 919 00:37:52,000 --> 00:38:00,000 we ended up finding out that one of our guys had a camcorder that he had actually faced towards Frank when Frank went down. 920 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,000 And we actually got lucky because after he was down, we also had thermal footage as well. 921 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000 So we'll see that. 922 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Now you're going to see, right here, this is Frank right here, back here. 923 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,000 Boom, he goes down. 924 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Right, right, right. 925 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000 Okay, happens kind of fast. 926 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Yes, it does. 927 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000 And it happens hard. 928 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:27,000 Alright, this is at 50% speed. Here's Frank right here. This is his sound equipment, which you see. Boom. 929 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:37,000 For some strange reason, his equipment lifted up by itself and was able to strike him in the face without him using his leg or either of his arms. 930 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000 All by itself. 931 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,000 So if you watch, you see this is his bag of equipment. Just smacked him in the head. 932 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Now as he's going back, right about there, he gets pushed in the chest. You see him fold? 933 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,000 Yep. 934 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,000 And then he goes down. Bang, and his equipment goes right over his head. 935 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,000 We wanted to make sure that he didn't lift it up with his arm or shoulder or anything. 936 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:06,000 And to be honest with you, both his legs are firmly planted on the ground and one arm's over his head and the other's right on his side. 937 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Now Steve sensed a cold spot. That's why his hands were up at the end and he was trying to feel it. 938 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,000 So he sensed a cold spot right before he went down. 939 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Exactly. And right at that same time, me and Grant were catching hot and cold spots on the thermal imaging camera upstairs in the back room. 940 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 It's pretty impressive. 941 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,000 And this is the thermal footage of when he was lying on the ground. 942 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,000 But it's just one more camera that picked it up, even though it was slightly after. 943 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Is there anything unusual about thermal footage of the camera? 944 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:43,000 No. The only thing I did notice on this, and I will say is, you can see where he got struck because you'll see it right on his face. 945 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000 Oh right. That's all he's got. 946 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 See right all through here. So you can actually see where he got struck by the bag. 947 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000 A little bit warmer than the rest. 948 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,000 Yeah, you can see all his tissues inflamed right on his jaw. That's real. 949 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000 And that's absolutely real. 950 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,000 That's the first time. Now I've seen people shoved, I've seen people slap, stuff like that. 951 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000 That's the first time I've seen a full grown man leveled. 952 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,000 Alright, so from a medical standpoint, I want your true impression of what you think happened to Frank that night. 953 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Something, someone, something caused him to hit the ground. We've seen that. 954 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,000 There is damage to his chin. You can see that all that tissue is inflamed. That's where it's showing the heat. 955 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,000 It automatically gets inflamed. That's what the human body reacts to. 956 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:36,000 Something terrified this man to the point where it truly, I feel, scared him and affected him in an emotional and possible psychological way for a short period of time. 957 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000 So you would say he was a healthy man that got knocked on his back? 958 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,000 Oh, absolutely. I mean, we talked back and forth as we did with the rest of the crew and he seemed to be a very healthy individual. 959 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000 What's your impressions on it, Captain? 960 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:54,000 Well, I think regardless of whether something supernatural happened to him or not, my impression is that he believed something happened. 961 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,000 And, you know, I sympathize with him. I'm somewhat skeptical of myself. 962 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,000 And it would probably take something like that happening to me for that to change. 963 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Well, I honestly have to say with the evidence that we've gathered here and what Frank experienced and we got to experience through Frank, you know, there is definitely, you know, there's some kind of paranormal activity in this building. 964 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,000 In the Army, we like to tell stories. We like to talk about who's been in the unit before and the history of what we've done. 965 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:28,000 And having one of our ancestors actually in the building with you actually makes it more interesting. 966 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Well, like I said, my beliefs are that you have legit paranormal activity here. 967 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:42,000 I agree. And what we'd like to do is give you a copy of all the evidence that we have for your own records and your own scrutiny. 968 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000 I'm so grateful. 969 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000 Great. 970 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,000 We have it and you'll be the first to know. 971 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000 And we really appreciate you guys having us in here to investigate the building. 972 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,000 Glad to have you. 973 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:57,000 You saw me going down just about proved that there is things that do happen and it did happen here that night. 974 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000 Next week on Ghost Hunters. 975 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,000 Frank comes to terms with his paranormal experience. 976 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000 I think you need to understand what happened that day. 977 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 So you're not sitting there wondering for the rest of your life. 978 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Did you trip or anything else? 979 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000 There's pretty much answers to those questions. 980 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,000 Sherry gets an education in the supernatural in an old college apartment house. 981 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000 They saw like a lady in white tapping on the window saying help me. 982 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000 Oh my God. 983 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,000 And taps investigates an historic inn with a dark past. 984 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,000 A customer stopped right there in the floor and said, I cannot come in here. 985 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000 You have too many spirits and out the door she walked. 986 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000 I feel something. 987 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,000 Hey Steve, she feels something right back here. 988 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,000 It's close to me. 989 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Next time on Ghost Hunters. 990 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Ghost Hunters